Loaded (Magazine):
Interview with Ed O'Neill
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As posted by StuartM at alt.tv.mwc on February 3, 1998.
From LOADED
Issue 39 (July 1997)
DO YOU THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THE SHOW WAS SO SUCCESSFUL WAS THAT THE
FAMILY ARE QUITE TRUE TO LIFE?
Yeah, I mean we certainly did show the flaws, especially in matters of
the sexual situation within a marriage, how it can be boring and so
forth. I don't feel any of the other shows feel too comfortable with
dealing with that issue. Just to show the dark side of human nature -
most sitcoms don't do that often.
DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY LIKE AL?
Yes, my uncle. That's what I've kind of based it on. He reminds me of
this guy, self deprecating, real ironic sense of humour, dark,
pessimistic, you know. Actually, I told him, but I don't think he was
interested in it, to tell you the truth, but he got a big kick out of it
when I told him.
APART FROM WHEN THEY WANT MONEY FROM AL, CAN YOU EVER THINK OF A TIME
WHEN THERE'S BEEN ACTUAL AFFECTION BETWEEN THE CAST MEMBERS?
Oh yeah, more so unfortunately in the past than in the last year or so,
but yeah, we've had that, you know, father-son stuff and daughter-son
and daughter-father daughter-mother stuff. We've banded together and
beat up other families.
HAD YOU DONE COMEDY BEFORE THIS?
Only on stage.
WHAT OTHER COMEDIES DO YOU LIKE?
Today I don't watch too many, but I like the little bit I've seen of
"Seinfeld"... I like Garry Shandling's show ["The Larry Sanders Show"]
very much. I think that's probably my favourite - in fact it's my
favourite. But they can get away with murder, they're on HBO, and can
say whatever they want. The can say "Fuck!" they can say anything. So
it's really funny. But when I was growing up I liked "The Honeymooners"
and Sid Caesar, Phil Silvers, Laurel and Hardy. I love Peter Sellers.
And I often thought that some of the old British stage lions, Ralph
Richardson, John Gielgud, even Alan Bates, Olivier, were very funny.
When they did do comedy, they did it very well and I always got a big
kick out of it.
WHEN DID YOU REALISE YOU WERE FUNNY?
I don't know.
WHAT ABOUT THE FACES YOU DO AS AL, DID THEY JUST COME?
I never did any of them in my other work, that I was aware of. Maybe I
did or I didn't, but I don't think so. So I wasn't aware of it, but in
this show, I don't know, it just seemed to fit in some way.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE AL WOULDN'T GO WITHOUT, APART FROM A TV?
Oh, beer, I don't know... bowling.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN AL AND HOMER.
Yes, except we came before Homer Simpson. Homer actually started on
"The Tracey Ullman Show". Al was sort of really a combination between
the two writers that created him, and then with myself, so it was really
kinda this - what is someone with split personalities... schizophrenic -
it's a bit hard to schizophrenic because it's me and Ron Leavitt and
Michael Moye, all combined in one character. Don't you think?
IS THE SHOW GOING TO RUN FOR QUITE A WHILE YET?
Oh we don't know. We're in fact waiting right now to hear if we're
going to go another year or not, everyone's a bit tense. We'd like to
go one more and finish up in a proper way. We wanna do a last one-hour
episode, and get Leavitt and Moye back to write it, who are our
creators. They've agreed to come back and write the last show.
HOW DO YOU THINK THE LAST SHOW WOULD GO?
I don't know. I had one thought, that was like at the end of the
programme he wins the lotto for $84 million and as they celebrate a
tornado comes down and takes the house away and leaves a big hole in the
ground. Well it's almost like "Doctor Strangelove". He got out of the
wheelchair and the world blew up. I like that ending very much hah hah
hah. Go off in a tornado.
HOW DO YOU KNOW PETER SELLER'S WORK? WAS IT THROUGH THE MOVIES?
"Doctor Strangelove", "After the Fox" - that's one of my favourites of
his. Everyone raves about his movie "Being There", but I can't watch
Peter Sellers not be funny. And when I saw him in it, I did not enjoy
it as much as I would have. I thought he was brilliant in it, but he
was so funny in all of the "Pink Panther" things. There are a few
others, and he was so so funny. He was really a genius, but also a sad
man unfortunately, disturbed, but oh so funny. This movie in town now,
"Waiting for Guzman", is very funny. You might like it, it's the guys
who did "Spinal Tap" which is one of my favourite movies. It's about a
local community theatre in the Midwest run by a guy named Corky Sinclair
who's gay, but in the mid-west, they just think he's artistic.
IS THERE ANYTHING OF YOURSELF IN AL?
I don't know, yeah, I suppose in some ways. You'd have to be a bit like
him to play him. Everybody has their own character, and it's funny
because everyone says they're not anything like them and everybody on
the show is a lot like them. So I must be.
DO YOU EVER FEEL THAT AL WILL CHANGE HIS CHARACTER?
No, and that's the key. He never does, only the situations around him.
He's always the same, and it's hard because that's part of my big
problem in the last couple of years, trying to make him stay the same.
A lot of the writers who are new are trying to make him grow or stretch
him or whatever. But I always say, "No, no, I don't want that. I just
want Al to be Al." That's why it's funny. It's like anything else.
It's like we've all said so many times about our own fathers. The guy
will never change, and that's sort of what we're after with this, all
the time.
WHAT WOULD AL DO IF HE WAS PRESIDENT?
Oh, I don't know. Al would probably give himself a raise. Hah hah. I
don't think I would feel too secure with Al as President of the United
States.
WHAT DOES THE DOG SPEND THE MONEY AL GIVES HIM IN THE CREDITS ON?
I have no idea. The thing just came about with the fact that Al spends
money on everybody including the dog, that everything cost him money.
We had to put meat on the bills, so the dog would take them from my
hand.
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